www.cbc.ca Both halves of The Black Keys, Dan Auerbach and Patrick Carney, talk about the flipsides of taking money for their music in this excerpt from their full interview in Studio Q. Video Rating: 4 / 5
It depends on whether the product or corporation fits with your personal views and musical message. If you are hypocritical, then you are absolutely a sellout. I don’t think anyone would fault you for endorsing the powerful and corrupt mayonnaise industry.
@UltraDOG17 Agreed. There’s nothing honorable about working hard all the time and not making any money for it. What is absolute creative integrity compared to health insurance, clothes that fit, and not having to walk in the snow to a day job flipping burgers?
Agreed. There’s nothing honorable about working hard all the time and not making any money for it. What is absolute creative integrity compared to health insurance, clothes that fit, and not having to walk in the snow to a day job flipping burgers?
@Egggbutt some can maneuver both, I have followed the band Portugal the man from their start releasing all records indie and building such a base that they now signed to Atlantic yet retain creative control because the already established fan base was their bargaining power, it would take a lot of poverty/ sacrifice to reach that point though. The black keys strike me as the same way they seem to grow organically compared to many artists where it’s obvious unseen forces are pulling the strings.
If it wasn’t for NHL 08 I might not have heard of the Black Keys till they really blew up. Take the money and hope your art can reach people or else what good is it?
I rather sell-out than living broke and miserable life again. Its less pain to deal with. Getcha money by any means neccesary! Fuck the broke struggling and hustling over small paychecks.
The issue isn’t the Black Keys, or any other individual artist, it’s the entire co-opting of the ecosystem of art, which puts artists in the most precarious of positions. With few exceptions, you can either produce art, maintain your integrity and resign to near destitution OR you can have your art co-opted by corporations in the service of their profit margins (i.e. label contracts, advertising, etc.). This is the choice that late Capitalism places artists and its rather disgusting.
I once read a blog that said the concept of selling out is a stupid one as soon as you have to pay bills. Also Henry Rollins has a great point on selling out. It’s a great 2 minute video
Patrick actually convinced me right at the end that he’s right: we have to watch shitty commercials regardless, might as well be with music that doesn’t also sound shitty.
@murphf06 hell yeah, I first heard them in NHL 08 too and it definitely got me into them. Anyone who turns down an offer for money for something they’ve made just because they don’t want to be a sellout is an idiot, especially in these economic times. They are spot-on in saying the music industry is backwards, it’s the only art form where “selling out” is seen as a bad thing. Don’t artists and paints do the same thing with their art? Well put, my man.
I think people are missing the fact that Dan and Pat are HUGE trolls, lol. Like, not in a bad way though. In a good way, a funny way. They rarely ever take interviews like this seriously. They just make up shit as they go. Hence why Pat tends to talk about mayonnaise, etc. Have you ever seen any of their other interviews? They’re hilarious, lol.
December 29th, 2011
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Good bless The Keys!
It depends on whether the product or corporation fits with your personal views and musical message. If you are hypocritical, then you are absolutely a sellout. I don’t think anyone would fault you for endorsing the powerful and corrupt mayonnaise industry.
Somebody get these guys a minutemen record.
These guys are the moby of rock.
@UltraDOG17 Agreed. There’s nothing honorable about working hard all the time and not making any money for it. What is absolute creative integrity compared to health insurance, clothes that fit, and not having to walk in the snow to a day job flipping burgers?
Agreed. There’s nothing honorable about working hard all the time and not making any money for it. What is absolute creative integrity compared to health insurance, clothes that fit, and not having to walk in the snow to a day job flipping burgers?
@Egggbutt some can maneuver both, I have followed the band Portugal the man from their start releasing all records indie and building such a base that they now signed to Atlantic yet retain creative control because the already established fan base was their bargaining power, it would take a lot of poverty/ sacrifice to reach that point though. The black keys strike me as the same way they seem to grow organically compared to many artists where it’s obvious unseen forces are pulling the strings.
If it wasn’t for NHL 08 I might not have heard of the Black Keys till they really blew up. Take the money and hope your art can reach people or else what good is it?
I LOVE THESE GUYS.
AND MAYONAISE.
I rather sell-out than living broke and miserable life again. Its less pain to deal with. Getcha money by any means neccesary! Fuck the broke struggling and hustling over small paychecks.
The issue isn’t the Black Keys, or any other individual artist, it’s the entire co-opting of the ecosystem of art, which puts artists in the most precarious of positions. With few exceptions, you can either produce art, maintain your integrity and resign to near destitution OR you can have your art co-opted by corporations in the service of their profit margins (i.e. label contracts, advertising, etc.). This is the choice that late Capitalism places artists and its rather disgusting.
I once read a blog that said the concept of selling out is a stupid one as soon as you have to pay bills. Also Henry Rollins has a great point on selling out. It’s a great 2 minute video
Mayonaise. ROFLHAHUEAHHUHEHEHAHAH.
@bernlin2000 definitely!
Patrick actually convinced me right at the end that he’s right: we have to watch shitty commercials regardless, might as well be with music that doesn’t also sound shitty.
@murphf06 hell yeah, I first heard them in NHL 08 too and it definitely got me into them. Anyone who turns down an offer for money for something they’ve made just because they don’t want to be a sellout is an idiot, especially in these economic times. They are spot-on in saying the music industry is backwards, it’s the only art form where “selling out” is seen as a bad thing. Don’t artists and paints do the same thing with their art? Well put, my man.
like david cross said “you cant buy a house with indie cred,” or some shit like that
that interviewer is a fucking dick
I think people are missing the fact that Dan and Pat are HUGE trolls, lol. Like, not in a bad way though. In a good way, a funny way. They rarely ever take interviews like this seriously. They just make up shit as they go. Hence why Pat tends to talk about mayonnaise, etc. Have you ever seen any of their other interviews? They’re hilarious, lol.
load of crap Sell out is a sell out and having corporations as your clients changes how you create
@juffan HAHAHAHA i fucking love you for putting that how you did lolol. something needed to be said about that lol.
cool interview though.
He’s right. Fuck Nickelback.
these dudes r opening up all these doors for good music to finally to b played on the radio
RIght on boys!
“Nickelback and Fergie or whatever” ahahahahahahaah